The lovely coupleLegal Analysis
By Blogonaut
One cannot turn on the television without being bombarded with outtakes from audio recordings of Mel Gibson’s ex calmly pushing his buttons as she secretly records his diatribes. What can we say, the bitch is evil, and he is nuts.
But are the tapes admissible in court?
At least one other blog has tried to definitively answer that question and failed miserably. But since we have our own “legal expert” (moi), before you finish reading this post you will know the answer.
The stakes are high for what’s-her-name, the Russian that Gibson now calls the “Goldigger”, because if there is no applicable statutory exception, each time Gibson’s money loving ex-GF recorded the actor that Hollywood loves to hate, she committed a violation of California Penal Code Section 632—which is punishable by a jail term of 12 months OR 16 months, two years, or three years in state prison (that’s for each recording).
So let’s get to the exceptions.
Yes, there are several very specific and very limited exceptions to the criminal statute, that are limited by the conjunctive requirements of intent, subject matter, and scope:
The recording must be made for the purpose of gathering evidence that the person reasonably believes relates to the commission of the crimes of:
1. Extortion;
2. Kidnapping;
3. Bribery;
4. Any crime involving violence against the person;
5. Harassing telephone calls.
There are two categories that are arguably applicable.
The first is #4—any crime involving violence against the person.
But remember, the Implanted One must not only actually believe that the scope of the recorded conversation is limited to evidence that Mel Gibson hit her, that belief must be reasonable. So next time that you visit Radar.com to give a listen to Ms. Boobs calmly baiting Mad Mel into a rage ask yourself—is this conversation reasonably related to incidents wherein the most hated man in Hollywood hit the Russian temptress? Or is she just pushing Mel’s buttons in aid of getting him to yell, scream, and use abusive language so she can damage the actor-producer in the tabloid media?
We think it is quite obviously the later.
But wait; there is another potentially applicable exception: #5—gathering evidence of harassing phone calls.
If the Implanted One can establish a prior pattern of Mad Mel calling her residence at all hours of the night and day making harassing phone calls, then all recordings that she made over the phone after that harassment commenced are fair game.
Additionally, one must ask, was the required purpose of the recordings--to gather evidence of on of the specified crimes--the purpose for which the recordings were made? Remember, in addition to the other requirements, the purpose of the recordings must be to gather evidence of one of the enumerated crimes--and no other.
Of course, the best evidence of Miss Boob’s intent is: What subsequent use did she make of the tapes?
Did she immediately turn the tapes over to law enforcement to aid in a prosecution for domestic battery and/or harassing phone calls?
Or did she instead give the recordings to a tabloid publication in aid of damaging what is left of Mad Mel’s reputation?
We all know the answer to that question, don’t we. The answer is clear even if you hate Mel Gibson.
The Implanted One did not give the tapes to police at all, she sent the tapes to Radar on-line to embarrass the actor and to cause as much damage to him in the public eye as possible.
Therefore, in our opinion, no exception applies, our Russian Beauty does not pass go, and she is guilty of multiple violations of Penal Code Section 632.
In addition, by the express terms of Penal Code Section 632, the tapes are not admissible in any prosecution against the actor for domestic violence (not that the tapes would be necessary to prove that all his ex wants for Christmas is two front teeth—and why).
The only question is will the Los Angeles District Attorney have the guts, in an election year when he is running for California Attorney General, to charge a domestic violence victim with illegally taping her abuser? Because the Implanted One would bear the burden of proving in any Section 632 prosecution that her intent was evidence gathering as specified, and that she cannot do--no way.
In our opinion both parties could use some time in jail. And then we can all go back to watching the BP underwater webcam.
43 comments:
Thank you for explaining what's up with the tapes from a legal point of view.
BTW, do this woman and Octomom share the same plastic surgeon or what?
It seems to me that all of Mel’s legal and public relations problems could have been prevented by two simple precautions:
1. A driver.
2. A vasectomy.
Or, maybe, Mel should have conditioned payment for the boob job on a tubal ligation.
And yea, what’s with Mr. Money Bags not hiring a chauffeur if he wants to prowl the bars? (I know what you are thinking Mel, but do the words "confidentially agreement" have any meaning to you?)
I have a feeling that this Russian would-be-bride wants a little more for Christmas than 2-caped front teeth.
Here's hoping she picks (jail) door #2.
Guess what else? If she is convicted of a crime (and she will be) she will be deported.
Yea, well all the evidence is of a set-up, see here: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-06-28/mel-gibsons-ugly-split-with-oksana-grigorieva/?cid=hp:topnav:sxyb
Some excerpts:
Oksana Grigorieva grew up in Soviet-era Ukraine, where her father sold potatoes and her mother conducted an orchestra at the local chicken factory (she was paid in eggs).
She has a career in music, but her first album, Beautiful Heartache, which was released on Gibson's Icon Records label last year, has sold so poorly that it doesn't register on Nielsen SoundScan, which only collects data for albums that sell more than 1,000 copies. (According to a source with knowledge of Icon Records sales, fewer than 200 copies of Beautiful Heartache have sold.)
Alan Bergman, a former ballet dancer and businessman, whom Grigorieva lived with for two years in London in the mid-1990s, has flat-out called her "an opportunist" for ditching him for James Bond star Timothy Dalton, after meeting him at a party. (He claimed that she had left her second husband for him.)
"Within a week, she had moved in with [Dalton] and I never saw her again. She was a very lovely girl, but a bit of an opportunist. Many Russian young women are. She came from a tiny town," Bergman, who clearly has reason to be bitter, told the Telegraph.
This woman is obviously little better than a prostitute or a gypsy—she scammed Mel Gibson.
Read the article!!!!
Abuser!
Whore!
I would like to know what Timothy Dalton has to say, but (unlike Gibson) he is far to smart to spew.
He would make an interesting trial witness though…
You lay down with dogs, you are going to get flees.
What is Mel doing with Octomom?
IMO, they should have to do their time together in the same jail cell.
(And then she should be deported back to the Ukrainian village from whence she came.)
Its not like Mel didn't have hints along the way:
Mel Gibson's new Russian girlfriend is an ambitious social climber with a scandalous past, a string of ex-lovers and a penchant for older men, say sources close to her.
An Exclusive ENQUIRER investigation reveals that Oksana Grigorieva - the stunning, 39-year-old singer-pianist at the center of Mel's $1 billion divorce - is the daughter of dirt-poor music teachers from the grimy industrial town of Saransk.
When she was 15, Oksana reportedly fell in love with James Bond star Timothy Dalton after seeing him on TV. Years later she bedded him and bore his son Alexander - but she refused to marry the 63-year-old actor because she didn't like his "marriage contract."
A close friend described her as "beautiful and talented, but also a force to be reckoned with."
Oksana married for the first time at age 19, but the union ended quickly. A second marriage also ended within six months. The beauty later had a relationship with a much-older Russian violinist.
Oksana migrated to England to seek fame as a model and actress - and developed a pattern of using men as stepping stones, say friends.
"She left a young man when she met Timothy Dalton and then moved up in the celebrity world to Mel Gibson," declared Dame Elisabeth Hoodless, the head of Britain's leading volunteer agency, who gave Oksana her first job in England.
Apparently, since the CD that Mel produced for her sold only 200 copies (no doubt purchased by Mel) she has added a new wrinkle to her history of scamming men for child support: Audio taping them.
Send this hustling gypsy slut to a Ukrainian prison where she belongs.
Why is it evil to reveal the abusive patterns of your ex? Can we please jump to the 21st century?
If she wants to get a boob job or a lip job, so what?! That says nothing about her personhood-and it definitely does not make her a whore, an evil person, or some evil foreigner who requires deportation. How sexist/rascist are these comments going to get?
Ick!
Is this going to be on the California bar exam?
LOL at Octomom!
Does she even have a green card?
Russian Octomom!
3:59 pm:
With her little bundle of Mel Joy, she does now.
Yea, when the baby was born it slapped the delivery nurse.
The perfect couple.
How can a music CD only sell 200 copies?
You can sell than many going door-to-door.
Is MG the new OJ?
The difference between Bonnie Lee Blakely and Mad Mel’s ex is that Octomom II only gets knocked up by rich A-listers, and not has been TV actors.
Of course, Mel’s ex is still among the living, but the night is young.
I guess the whole “I walked back to the restaurant to get my gun” gambit would not work at this point.
Sorry Mel, child support is forever. (But you can afford it.)
Her 15 minutes of fame are so over. (Until the next rich celebrity gets her pregnant.)
Oh, my, what a hornet's nest this has become. Sorry, but I can't find any sympathy in my heart for either one of them. They deserve each other and whatever damage is done is self-inflicted IMO. The only victim here is this poor child, who as an infant is powerless to stand up and say "NO" to her parents' insanity. If Gibson was so blinded by lust that he did not do a background check on this bimbo (and yes boys and girls, anyone pondering a relationship should do a background check on the other person), then he gets what he gets. He'll be signing checks to her for life. And she will continue to shop for rich boys for as long as little boys keep thinking with the wrong head.
Dear July 16, 2010 3:08 PM:
If the woman is traveling the world stalking and bedding rich and famous men to trick them into getting her pregnant for financial gain--that's pretty evil.
When she bore Dalton's child in London and then pressured him to marry he presented her with a prenup and she backed out of the engagement in a hurry.
She took no chances with Gibson, and her financial squeeze play was backed up with black mail material--the tapes she made in violation of Penal Code Section 632, which she will keep piecemealing out to the tabloids until Gibson pays up.
In addition to being illegal, it’s not very nice.
And it is not a bit sexist to point that out.
I don't trust that bitch for one second. She has this perfectly composed voice, and she knows the phonecall is being recorded.
The whole thing comes off like an 'innocent act'.
Yes, Mel's out of his mind -- that we knew. But this Russian whore is playing him like a cheap violin.
She's setting her traps and checking them twice.
And in blunders the big dumb elephant.
LOL, very well said. That's what happens, though, when one thinks with the wrong head...
Oh, my—it’s easy to play little miss passive aggressive when you’re the person doing the recording! In no way do I excuse the bad behavior of Mad Mel—and Blogonaut you are correct: they both need to spend serious time as guests of the local gray bar hotel.
Clearly, she intended to use the tapes for extortion and blackmail purposes—and her behavior proves she’s interested only in his money. Let’s say a court determines she’s guilty of extortion or blackmail—what will happen to the black-hearted Russian? Are extortion or blackmail crimes for which one can be deported? Gee, that’d be the kicker: she gets deported and Mad Mel gets to keep her anchor baby in the USA.
Sydney, when one thinks with the wrong head—well, that’s when he’s reminded that having children is a life sentence with absolutely NO chance of parole.
Anyone can be provoked into blowing their top--especially by an intimate--especially if the man is hot tempered to begin with.
This woman came from nothing, used a man as a ticket to the UK so she could stalk and bed Timothy Dalton, and then immediately dropped H#1 for Dalton, tricked Dalton into impregnating her, the moved on for another score.
Mel was an easy mark, given his proppensities,but he was a mark set up by a professional grifter.
She fucked up this time because Mel has no downside to spending millions to uncover every petty little scam that this Ukranian criminal has ever committed and all the other men she scammed.
Hopefully she will do 10 years in prison and then be deported back to the shithole she grew up in--after the children are returned to their fathers to raise.
The Russian was under a court order to not leak the tapes and she has since testified under oath that she did not.
Must have been the Tooth Fairy that did it!
I heard about that court order as well. So, the question is did she violate the court order, and, if not, then who released the tapes? I would think someone capable of secretly recording someone's phone call illegally is more than capable of violating a court order. And who besides the bimbo had access to the tapes? Seems there's more and more incriminating evidence against Miss Ukraine, and less against Mel Gibson. I'm not excusing his behavior, which comes as no surprise to anyone, but this girl is going to try to take him to the cleaners over this and I sincerely hope she fails, and ends up in jail in the process.
The latest news is that her dentist saw no sign of mouth trama sufficient to break her tooth.
This will get ugly.
NOW THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT: Internet news sites are reporting about text messages sent from “The EX” to Mel in which she clearly states she recorded the conversations because Mel didn't keep his part of the deal to support her, and not to gather evidence of a crime.
Therefore, it appears even more clear that the tapes are not admissible.
But it gets worse.
Experts commissioned by several news outlets are now saying that the Ex’s voice tracks on the tapes (unlike Mel’s voice) was recorded with a professional grade microphone, and then dubbed in later. In addition, the tapes are clearly edited in key places. Therefore, although Gibson’s voice may be real, the conversational context is faked—not only providing any court with another basis to exclude the tapes but further calling the EX’s credibility into question.
This gets layered on top of the photo’s of the broken teeth that the ex says resulted from two blows to the mouth do not show any visible injuries to the lips or face—raising the inference that the tooth damage was self-inflicted. But at a minimum, the EX is not telling the truth about the injuries.
To my knowledge Timothy Dalton has not said a word about this incident and has come to see his twelve year old son, last week at Oksana's home. It is reported on IMDB that Dalton and Miss O were married and are close.
I want to wait and see what the Court has to say about this matter and the leaking of tapes and if they were sealed with the court, are these the same tapes?
Regardless Mr. Mel has a terrible temper and is more concerned about himself than his child and or Miss O's son.
Oksana has stated that she didn't leak the tapes and Radar has stated on camera that she didn't give them to Radar. This wouldn't be the first time that some greedy Clerk or legal office staffer sold copies.
I have also seen at least two experts state that the tapes are not tampered with.
In light of all of the above there is too much speculation and vilification without proven facts. Further since when is it a crime for a beautiful woman to hook up with a rich guy who probably was all too happy to pursue her.
Also the alleged picture that was released of the broken teeth looked like she had bruises on the side of her face, she has very high cheekbones and a good smack could of knocked off what looked like Lumineers that lay over most of the tooth rather than Veneers that lay over severly filed down teeth. Maybe a Dentist could weigh in on this. Further I do not think that her Dentist would go public with such accusations if they were rigged up and false. I also believe that as a Doctor in CA he is required by law to document and report to the authorities domestic violence. Does he really want to ruin his rep and practice helping out an alleged shake down artist.
Dear July 20 at 8:03 pm:
With all due respect, your facts are completely wrong.
For instance, she never married the James Bond actor Timothy Dalton, although she has admitted to a desire to be with the actor since her teens. In any event, she used a succession of men to get close to Dalton (dumping the man that she was with when she met Dalton at a party), and then quickly became pregnant by him.
She refused to marry Dalton, and moved on to greener pastures, when Dalton presented her with a prenuptial agreement and it was clear that she would not gain financially by staying with Dalton—whereas if she left him he would have to pay her child support.
With Mel it was another whirlwind “romance”, followed by an immediate pregnancy—just like with Dalton.
One of the tapes released to Radar on-line makes reference to events dating back to the beginning of her relationship with Gibson (early in 2009) when he was still with his wife, so it looks like she has been taping Gibson from day-one in aid of a long-term financial shakedown. This time if presented with a prenup or less than a windfall she would have leverage.
Every audio expert who has publicly taken a position has observed that the Radar on-line tapes have been tampered with in the following respects: Mel’s voice on the tapes is of relatively poor quality but her’s is of excellent, studio quality recorded with a professional quality microphone and dubbed in later—meaning that her side of the conversation was faked. There are numerous places in the tapes where they have been professionally edited with fade outs and there are other telltale signs of professional post production.
This woman haled from the lowest dregs of society, sought out to marry and have children by rich celebrities—as a scam for financial gain—and did.
She coldly and calculatedly set Gibson up from the beginning of the relationship. She is an extortionist. She only cares about money, but she was sloppy in several respects, some noted above.
And we have seen the pictures of the broken teeth, and no it is not possible to strike a person in the mouth (twice no less) hard enough to break veneers and have zero visible damage to the lips. Simply stated there would be cuts and bleeding. In this case there were not. We have been a practicing criminal lawyer for over 30 years, and we have seen what photographs of a person punched in the mouth hard enough to dislodge teeth look like. These photos are not even close.
Sure Mel Gibson has a temper, and he is a little crazy, and that is why he made such a good mark.
As street-smart and conniving as this woman is, she is no match for Gibson’s Beverly Hills lawyer Stephen Kolodny and the team of experts and instigators that will be brought to bear (not to mention the other high powered lawyers who are going to sue her back to dirt-poor hovel from whence she came when her family law gambit runs its course). This is no longer about the $30,000,000 she tried to extort from Mel Gibson, it is about his reputation and multi-hundred million dollar ability or lack of ability to produce films.
She may have competent counsel as well, but they cannot testify for her. And frankly, she would be hard pressed to fund a defense to the legal shit-storm that is about to blow her way.
Simply put, the bitch is toast—and rightly so.
If there is a God, she will take zero from Gibson, she will do time in prison, then she will be deported back to the shit-hole in the Ukraine that she crawled out of (with both offspring returned to their fathers).
Harsh? Perhaps, but we do not think highly of blackmailers—especially those who ply their trade pretending to be friends and lovers. And I am sure there are those that think the fate we posit is too good for such a person.
See here:
http://blogonaut-blogonaut.blogspot.com/2010/07/gibson-ex-now-target-of-extortion.html
Mel Gibson’s ex has now given yet ANOTHER explanation about why she made the audio tapes:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5geWAGLI1_4CTVzgHTWpik8rQNWuQD9H9K2A80
“LOS ANGELES — Mel Gibson's ex-girlfriend says she's the victim of a "smear campaign" and never tried to extort money from the Oscar-winning star.
“In a video interview posted Friday on RadarOnline.com, Oksana Grigorieva says she's been "victimized all over again" by speaking out about her troubles with Gibson. She accuses him of "trivializing domestic violence" and urges him to "tell the truth."
“The Russian singer and mother of Gibson's youngest child says the now-infamous tapes allegedly of the filmmaker threatening Grigorieva were all recorded on one night, and that she recorded the calls because she feared for her life.”
This woman would not recognize “the truth” if it came out of the toilet and bit her on the ass.
I will tell you what has “trivialized” domestic violence: She has, along with the other minority of women who fabricate such allegations for financial gain.
The “beating photo” has no black eye, then it does. The tapes were altered. And all of these allegations occurred in the contest of her trying to get millions of dollars.
Mel has not smeared her. She has smeared herself.
The Russian is still "leaking" (we use the term losely, because the tapes and doucments are probably all faked)--this time giving Radar on line an alleged text message from Mel that says his tranquilizers make him nuts (no other context provided)--which proves--nothing except that with each leaked document the Russian's perjury that she is not the source (and baby, if its your lawyer or sister doing the leaking, it is YOU)gets more and more annoying.
She also gets less and less credible with each passing day.
Look, grifter, unless the judge takes the kid away from you you are going to get reasonable child support--but that is all you are going to get.
Get over it.
And no one wants to see the Ukranian gypsy danced with the stars.
Your so over in the public eye.
You were paid attention to when you were with Mel and only because you were standing in front of a camera with Mel.
You are just a footnote now in the wikipedia of SOMEONE ELSE'S career, which is way more than you deserve.
Good bye, get lost, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way back to Russia you lying cheater.
You get uglier by the day—kind of like a reverse “Dorian Gray”—with your outer appearance mirroring your corrupt and ugly soul.
And you bore me to tears with your stupid, unbelievable, ridiculous and obtuse lies.
Your 15 minutes are up.
Someone call immigration.
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